Showing 1 - 20 of 21  |  Show  posts at a time
2 | Next
juliebwise
juliebwise
Chapter 6
Jun 12 2011, 11:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 12 2011, 11:13 PM EDT
RTI for English-Language Learners Do you find this valuable?    
Keyword tags: book chapter
jessicacsmith
jessicacsmith
1. RE: Chapter 6
Jun 20 2011, 10:00 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 20 2011, 10:00 PM EDT
Because I have several ELLs in my class each year, I was very interested in Chapter 6. The authors state (on page 136) that teachers should implement interventions designed specifically for and validated with ELL students. While reading I was wondering how I go about finding these specific approaches for my ELLs. I would love a suggestion of a book.... 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
JodieLauber
JodieLauber
2. RE: Chapter 6
Jun 21 2011, 6:54 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 21 2011, 8:43 AM EDT
I read this chapter because I had my first ELL student in the classroom this past school year. I found that the chapter included some information I already knew, but offered some new ideas, too. On page 137, it talks a great deal about culturally and linguistically responsive assessment and instruction. I found this to be very relevant to my experience with an ELL student. Building strong relationships with the student and the family was a great way for me to "build a bridge" between the home and school culture. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
JodieLauber
JodieLauber
3. RE: Chapter 6
Jun 21 2011, 7:09 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 21 2011, 7:58 AM EDT
I chose to read this chapter because I had an ELL student in my classroom this past year. I found that I already knew some of the information from this chapter, but I learned some new things, too. On page 137, the author talks about culturally and linguistically responsive and appropriate assessment and instruction. I found this section to compliment my experiences this past year. Building a relationship with the student and the family truly helped to “build a bridge between home and school cultures”. Do you find this valuable?    
JodieLauber
JodieLauber
4. RE: Chapter 6
Jun 21 2011, 7:56 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 21 2011, 7:56 AM EDT
I also really found the section on pages 145-152 really helpful. This section on classroom literacy instruction for ELLs was comprised of some information I knew, but the chart with the domains of literacy and the examples of strategies and activities was well organized with many examples and ideas for instruction. Do you find this valuable?    

cynthiaallenfuss
5. RE: Chapter 6
Jun 21 2011, 8:41 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 21 2011, 8:41 PM EDT
This past year, I worked with several ELL students and really felt like I didn't do enough in providing reading support. I chose this chapter hoping that I would gain more insights into how to help these students. After reading this chapter, I had a better uderstanding of ELL children and how I could help them.
I could relate to the section on "Many Subtypes of ELLs," because each of the children that I worked with were very different. Also, the ideas for culturally and linguistically responsive and appropriate assessment and instruction as described on pages 137 - 138 resonated as a definite truth to me. Additionally, Table 6.1 on page 144 had insightful questions would could be used when discussing ELL students during my district's PLC's. Finally, I felt there were some good suggestions on the domains of literacy and examples of strategies that I would also like to share with classroom teachers.
1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
mandywolfe
mandywolfe
6. RE: Chapter 6
Jun 22 2011, 7:46 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 22 2011, 7:46 PM EDT
I definitely don't feel like I have enough training to help my ELL students learn to read in the most efficient way. When the ELL teacher is only in the building for a few hours a day, it is hard to find time to collaborate. I feel like I figure things out as I go along, and that won't be good enough for RTI. I did feel like many suggestions in the chapter were similar to what we already do with other struggling readers. I think the chart on p.144 will help me guide my instruction this year. I need to look at the various reasons why my ELL students may be struggling to read. Just because they don't speak English, doesn't mean that they can't read. I think this is an important idea for all educators to realize. Do you find this valuable?    
LonaKluttz
LonaKluttz
7. RE: Chapter 6
Jun 22 2011, 9:47 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 22 2011, 9:47 PM EDT
I selected this particular chapter because of the focus on ELLs and RTI and this concept has had very little exposure thus far during this week's institute. As a teacher of ELLs and native English-speaking first grade students, through this chapter I gained a lot of insight into how these pieces to the puzzle all fit together. It is extremely important for classroom instruction to be both culturally and linguistically responsive to the needs of ELLs. Likewise, individual ELLs have individual needs, strengths, and difficulties--it is important not to group all ELLs into one group. As in all good RTI models, it is important to utilize multiple measures of assessing growth and areas of need. As this chapter highlights...limited English proficiency should never be considered a sign of limited intelligence. Knowledgeable and responsive classroom teachers, ESL teachers, intervention specialists, and reading specialists must all collaborate to best support ELLs in the classroom and in the RTI process. Do you find this valuable?    
heather_lane
heather_lane
8. RE: Chapter 6
Jun 23 2011, 12:08 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2011, 12:08 AM EDT
I chose this chapter because of working with an ELL this past year. I feel that I did him a disservice in that I did not know enough about HOW to help him with his reading challenges. This chapter helped to validate some of my thoughts in regards to this student in particular, and ELLs in general. On page 135, the authors stated that "ELLs are just as capable as their fluent English-speaking peers to engage in higher level thinking, although it might take them longer to process language, especially when a task is cognitively demanding." All too often, ELLs are looked upon as having limited intelligence, but we need to be cognizant of the fact that they are working to process the language, and it has to be done in a different, and perhaps slower, manner than those who are proficient in English. We need to have an accurate understanding of the students' levels of English proficiency in order to be able to support them in their learning. On pages 136 and 137, the authors reviewed the factors that must be considered when teaching ELLs: creating a responsive learning environment, knowledge of research-based practices and approaches, and knowledge of the second-language process. As more ELLs come through my classroom, I will need to collaborate more with experts in this area in order to support the students in a better way. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
marylehman
marylehman
9. RE: Chapter 6
Jun 23 2011, 12:42 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2011, 12:42 AM EDT
I was anxious to read this chapter about how to better support ELLs in our classroom. Each year I have students that were either simultaneous bilinguals or sequential bilinguals (p.135), even one girl that didn't know any English at all. I used several phonemic awareness strategies that I used in kindergarten for these students and saw improvement in reading and writing. But after reading this chapter I don't think I emphasized the important of developing vocabulary knowledge. This is definitely something I will be more aware of when I work with ELL students in the future. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
patriciaking
patriciaking
10. RE: Chapter 6
Jun 23 2011, 6:03 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2011, 6:05 AM EDT
When reading this chapter about the "simultaneous bilinguals" and the "sequential bilinguals" on page 135, I recognized the difference between the individuals. The reference also to the background of these students impacting English proficiency was also very important. Some students come from wealthy or middle class families where others come from homes in a lower socioeconomic class. Parent involvement from these types of families also varies based on background information. The more involved the parents are in the educational programs of their children, the more movement is seen in the English proficiency of these individuals.
Literacy in native languages was also discussed as a factor in language acquisition. If students are not literate in their native language, achieving proficiency in reading and written language is delayed further unless strong interventions are implemented.
On page 146, it discusses the "domains of literacy" and gave examples of strategies and activities to use when working with these students. I have been advised by our ELL staff to focus heavily on vocabulary development. I was also told that less attention should be given to phonics but the authors of this chapter includes this as a part of the interventions and strategies that should be utilized. Most recently, I've had students who speak Portugese and Arabic and they have a tough time approximating "our sounds". I'm interested in learning more about the proper way to teach phonics to these students. I utilize a variety of approaches to tackle vocabulary that are interactive and they do work. So vocabulary development has been a major part of the interventions utilized and I've seen growth. But I'd love to learn more that will grow them even more.
Do you find this valuable?    

mjmatcham
11. RE: Chapter 6
Jun 23 2011, 12:17 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2011, 12:17 PM EDT
I found the questions at the end of the chapter to be most helpful. I liked how they divided them up by tiers. Several of my students this year are ELL's. I find that just like my other struggling learners, each has his/her own set of deficits and strengths. the study cited at the top of p.155 suggests that phonological awareness interventions are promising but I truly believe that looking at the whole learner is the key like it is with any good teaching. Do you find this valuable?    

mjmatcham
12. RE: Chapter 6
Jun 23 2011, 12:22 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2011, 12:22 PM EDT
Mandy, I agree with you about not having enough training. I am a reading specialist and other than a few Praxis questions ELL wasn't really mentioned. At least one course would have been beneficial. Do you find this valuable?    

loriemeckley
13. RE: Chapter 6
Jun 23 2011, 8:10 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2011, 8:10 PM EDT
I chose this chapter because I've worked with English language learners for many years. I enjoy watching them learn and grow. As the authors state on page 137, all learning is cultural. Just as we get to know our English speaking students and their families, we also need to get to know our ELLs and their families. At the beginning of the year, we do a Culture Bag activity (a getting to know me activity). They each decorate a bag to show something about themselves. They place 3-5 items in the back and bring it to school to share with the class. They need to tell something about each item. All of my students enjoy sharing and learning about each other. It gives my ELLs a chance to share information about their countries of origin and their families. We celebrate everyone! This activity helps us in "creating a positive, responsive learning environment that views students' cultural and linguistic diversity as assets". (pg 136) 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    

sharonrfrey
14. RE: Chapter 6
Jun 23 2011, 9:27 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2011, 9:27 PM EDT
This past year we had quite a few English language learners at varying ability levels. I had an especially difficult time having a student in one of my I intervention groups who barely spoke any English at all. I struggled with trying to teach him reading strategies when he had a hard enough time trying to read the words! Chapter 6 provided a lot of useful information for working elwith ELLs as a part of the RTI process. I did question the statement on p. 135 that said "whether ELLs are literate in their first language affects how easy it is for them to learn to read in English. My question is, if we don't speak their first language, how do we know if they are literate in it?
Additionally, I found the questions at the end of the chapter to be especially helpful. The first question under each of the tiers is about whether or not we've had proper training and preparation in teaching ELLs. This is where many schools are struggling because there never seems to be enough training!
Do you find this valuable?    

amyjvaldez
15. RE: Chapter 6
Jun 24 2011, 4:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 24 2011, 4:59 PM EDT
I love the idea of having my ELL students use the same patterned language books they've repeatedly reread with the strong support of the ELL teacher as the basis for their writing. This idea compliments the same things I heard in the writing breakout session with Dorfman and Cappelli. I love when the same best practices are repeated in different contexts. The problem I find in the day to day teaching is the communication time available between colleagues. I need to know what book or pattern the ELL teacher is using. I'm wondering how difficult it would be to incorporate some of the technology we used this week as a tool to quickly check of what' s being used between the walls of our individual classrooms. Do you find this valuable?    
Janetpurcell
Janetpurcell
16. RE: Chapter 6
Jun 28 2011, 12:25 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 28 2011, 1:12 PM EDT
As the only ESL teacher at the institute, I was thrilled that 2 whole chapters of the book were dedicated to ELLs. Chapter 6 is a great reference for all classroom teachers with ELLs in their classrooms. I do wish all my peers in Pennsylvania (where were the other ESL teachers???????) would all be given this chapter to read before they begin the next school year.
I just finished my masters thesis in teaching reading to intermediate ELLs and this chapter summarizes what I took much longer to write!
I ask all of you classroom teachers and reading specialists to read the RESEARCH on ELL reading. Most of the articles in the references section are geared toward understanding ELL needs, especially the 4th one. They took the Fountas & Pinnell guided reading groups and added or accentuated domains that are necessary for ELLs to thouroughly comprehend the reading. I have done this and found it very appropriate for my ELLs of all English and reading levels. Don't follow what the basals say. Peter Dewitz is right on target. Most basals throw in a few comments about ELLs and then water down the text.
I especially agree with the last paragraphs of the article. "Collaborative problem solving and continuing professional development are essential to change the outlook for most culturally and linguistically diverse students."
Because the parents of most ELLs don't sue or complain about education, many of the needs of this group have been ignored. I thank and honor all of you who have taken the time to read this article. Keep up the great work!
Do you find this valuable?    
Janetpurcell
Janetpurcell
17. RE: Chapter 6
Jun 28 2011, 12:31 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 28 2011, 12:31 PM EDT
"This past year, I worked with several ELL students and really felt like I didn't do enough in providing reading support. I chose this chapter hoping that I would gain more insights into how to help these students. After reading this chapter, I had a better uderstanding of ELL children and how I could help them.
I could relate to the section on "Many Subtypes of ELLs," because each of the children that I worked with were very different. Also, the ideas for culturally and linguistically responsive and appropriate assessment and instruction as described on pages 137 - 138 resonated as a definite truth to me. Additionally, Table 6.1 on page 144 had insightful questions would could be used when discussing ELL students during my district's PLC's. Finally, I felt there were some good suggestions on the domains of literacy and examples of strategies that I would also like to share with classroom teachers."
Cynthia,
Having just completed my masters in TESOL and reading, this chapter almost made me cry that it was included in a 'general teaching' text. It beautifully summarizes my final paper. Many reading specialists do not realize that teaching reading to ELLs is very different than teaching reading to native speakers.
If you keep this chapter as your 'ESL bible' you will do better each year as you realize what 'culturally and linguistically responsiveness' really is. Good luck to you.
Do you find this valuable?    
Janetpurcell
Janetpurcell
18. RE: Chapter 6
Jun 28 2011, 12:36 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 28 2011, 12:36 PM EDT
"I definitely don't feel like I have enough training to help my ELL students learn to read in the most efficient way. When the ELL teacher is only in the building for a few hours a day, it is hard to find time to collaborate. I feel like I figure things out as I go along, and that won't be good enough for RTI. I did feel like many suggestions in the chapter were similar to what we already do with other struggling readers. I think the chart on p.144 will help me guide my instruction this year. I need to look at the various reasons why my ELL students may be struggling to read. Just because they don't speak English, doesn't mean that they can't read. I think this is an important idea for all educators to realize."
As an ESL teacher, I agree with you to a point. In my research and experience, I would recommend that you work hard on phonological awareness and comprehension to begin. Build TONS of background knowledge and preteach vocabulary - not level 3 vocabulary, but level 2 vocabulary (see Isabel Beck's work on the 3 levels of vocabulary). You will be amazed at ELLs vague understandings of words like: several, but, dawn, doubt, etc.
My biggest recommendation to you is be very wary of fluency testing for the ELLs. If they are not TOTALLY fluent in their speaking (I mean a productive vocabulary on the level of their peers) then they can not be fluent readers. Too much fluent reading testing develops 'word callers' (kids who can decode but have no idea what they are reading).
Do you find this valuable?    
Janetpurcell
Janetpurcell
19. RE: Chapter 6
Jun 28 2011, 12:40 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 28 2011, 12:40 PM EDT
"I chose this chapter because of working with an ELL this past year. I feel that I did him a disservice in that I did not know enough about HOW to help him with his reading challenges. This chapter helped to validate some of my thoughts in regards to this student in particular, and ELLs in general. On page 135, the authors stated that "ELLs are just as capable as their fluent English-speaking peers to engage in higher level thinking, although it might take them longer to process language, especially when a task is cognitively demanding." All too often, ELLs are looked upon as having limited intelligence, but we need to be cognizant of the fact that they are working to process the language, and it has to be done in a different, and perhaps slower, manner than those who are proficient in English. We need to have an accurate understanding of the students' levels of English proficiency in order to be able to support them in their learning. On pages 136 and 137, the authors reviewed the factors that must be considered when teaching ELLs: creating a responsive learning environment, knowledge of research-based practices and approaches, and knowledge of the second-language process. As more ELLs come through my classroom, I will need to collaborate more with experts in this area in order to support the students in a better way."
Heather, As an ESL teacher, I am thrilled to see your awareness of ELL needs go beyond the superficial. Keep searching for ideas and strategies. Keep this chapter as your 'ESL bible' because so many truths are in it.
Do you find this valuable?    
2 | Next

Related Content

  (what's this?Related ContentThanks to keyword tags, links to related pages and threads are added to the bottom of your pages. Up to 15 links are shown, determined by matching tags and by how recently the content was updated; keeping the most current at the top. Share your feedback on Wetpaint Central.)